Quote from Ron Rollo on October 5, 2020, 6:36 am

Hi Dave,

That's a good question.  Without having the Lear45 installed (the FSX Lear45 imported into P3D v4.5) and having a dummy Reversion panel and only three display units, I think you have the cards stacked against you from the get go.

First, you need to get a version of the Lear45 imported into P3D.  Next, you will need to get Jet45 up and running, at least the modules displayed and talking to one another.  Last, you will need a switch or button to press to switch the EICAS and MFD screens back and forth, it does not need to be in or on the Reversion panel, but that is where it should be (so you will want to make a somewhat working reversion panel rather than having a dummy) and use the Jet45 custom FSUIPC offset 73D6 bit 0.  This offset is for the DU2/DU3 Reversion.

I have included a complete list of all the Jet45 FSUIPC offsets in case you do not have them and the Jet45 User guide.

Just in case you have not heard, Jason is working on an all new Jet45 AAS that will be using Arduino interface modules.  It is going to be as close to a plug and play solution as possible, as long as you have the hardware and it is all properly wired.  The release of the new software is still yet to be determined.

The reason I bring this up is that the older version of Jet45 will not work with the new version and will require a lot of work to rewire everything to work with the new version.  Most of us have it in our mind that we have to rework all the wiring, I just wanted to make you aware of that if you decide to move to the new version in the future.

I hope this info helps!

Quote from DrDave on October 6, 2020, 12:34 pm

Thanks Ron,

Really appreciate your input. I am using an EFIS, A/P and Com I built for the glare panel and have an extra button.

When I purchased the MIP from Alan, the bezels (PFD, MFD, RMU) came with it. Did he get them from you? If so, do you have the connectivity (which wire comes from which switch + ground)?

Two more questions, please.

What language do you use to interrogate the Jet45 bit settings? If it's FSUIPC's Lua, could you send me a copy of the code?

Do you have any photos of your AC 120v wiring in the sim?

Best regards,

Dave

Quote from Jason on October 6, 2020, 1:46 pm

Dave,

I'm the developer of Jet45 and can answer your questions on the software.  Jet45 monitors the state of the offsets using FSUIPC/WIDEFS from the simulator.  You can use any 3rd party software/hardware you want to set the FSUIPC offsets from your buttons/switches completely outside of Jet45.  As long as they are set according the offset listing that Ron provided above, you shouldn't have any problems making this work.

Do you currently have any interface cards to connect your hardware to?  if so, please let us know which one and we can figure out the best way to get you up and running.

 

Quote from DrDave on October 6, 2020, 2:17 pm

Hi Jason,

I well know who you are. Great job.

A little background. I am a 45 year (retired) Systems Engineer / Programmer who worked for Ross Perot. I can handle the technology. I also am an ex-Navy aviator.

I have not interfaced any cards yet. Just started rebuilding after a 4 year hiatus. I have both Pokeys and Arduino cards. I plan to use LINDA and Lua as the interface with FSUIPC. As I have been simming for 30 years on and off (started with a PS2 in 1985 with the first MFS), I know how to use Lua and FSUIPC (many yokes/joysticks, Goflight). LINDA is a very good tool that already contains the communication with HID devices and already has the FSUIPC offsets/keywords defined. Easy to add tailoring to key/variable input/output activity.

It is so much quicker to copy code than type from scratch. Thats why I ask. Also, just viewing someone's naming standards helps in doing something new with a programming language one already knows.

Thanks for your attention.

 

Quote from Jason on October 6, 2020, 3:35 pm

Great background info Dave!  Sounds like you've done some exciting stuff!

As Ron mentioned above, we have been working diligently over the past several months to transition the entire cockpit to Arduino for interfacing to FSUIPC.  By doing this, I have complete control over how Jet45 works with the panels that are available from Ron. Additionally the user doesn't have to worry about FSUIPC offsets or doing your own coding anymore since Jet45 V2 will no longer use them for interfacing to hardware.  This greatly improves the usability and performance of the software, and is a plug-and-play solution to builders.

Since you are just getting started building up your sim, I think you are in a good position to take advantage of this change moving forward.  If you don't want to use Jet45 V2 and the Arduino boards that Ron has developed, you can use the offsets list provided along with your pokeys or Arduino to set FSUIPC variables.

Quote from Ron Rollo on October 6, 2020, 4:16 pm

Hey Dave,

To answer a few of your questions above, we are working on a very detailed pinout assignment document for the new 2.0 version of the Jet45 software.  The panels that you mentioned utilize the same wiring so it may help in your case.  But you would still need an ohm meter to identify each of the wires and buttons.

To answer your second question, there is not much 120 volt wiring in the sim.  But if you are referring to the 12 volt system, I did a thread on what I had a couple years ago HERE

Keep in mind that I am in the process of taking everything apart and starting from scratch to prepare for version 2.0 of the Jet45 software.  The way everything works is much easier than the way I had my first version wired up.  Once I finally do get it wired up I will take photos and document it in the same way I did V1.0.

Quote from DrDave on October 6, 2020, 6:28 pm

Thanks Ron, appreciate.

Any due date for V2.0? As you may remember, schedules are self fulfilling prophecies. As a certified project manager I can appreciate the QC and testing. 95% of the testing can take 50% of the time and the last 5% can take just as much time.

No offense meant if you already know. I can help with testing and QC techniques.

Quote from Ron Rollo on October 7, 2020, 6:58 am

Hey Dave,

Speaking for myself and Jason, releasing the software can not come soon enough but we are still in the development stage, testing as we go along of course.  However, the Jet45 AAS v2.0 is nearly complete!  The Jet45 Systems Software is well on it's way but still too far out to put a time frame on it.  We will be posting a news update on the development in the next coming weeks.