Quote from Hangar45 Admin on November 29, 2017, 4:04 pm

(Original thread started on 01-20-11 by Eric Williams)

I have the demo version up and running on my 16" widescreen in preparation for purchase and install into my cockpit. The problem I am having is the PFD and MFD sizes.

 

Currently the largest I can get the display units to go is about 4.25'W by 5.5" tall (approximate) This is toggling the frame etc as well. I can get the shaded background to enlarge but the display values stay the same one they get to this size.

 

From what I can tell I should be shooting for approximately 6.25"W by 7" tall for the visible area. I can get there with the shaded area but if you look at the speed/alt tapes, they would be significantly inside the frame with a large dead area. Any ideas what I am doing wrong?

 

(Posted by Eric Tomlin on 01-21-11)

One thing you can try is to look at the .ini file and see the lines:

[X_SIZE,Y_SIZE]

433,605

[X_POSITION,Y_POSISTION]

337,410

 

There you can try increasing the values of the Sizes and see if you are in fact able to run them higher than what you are getting. What I found is that sometimes running JET45 on two monitors from 1 PC will cause you to get some size issues kinda like what you are talking about until you go in a size them manually via the .ini file. Also, if you ever have an issue where the software pops up "off screen" then adjust your Position coordinates until it comes into view. Hopefully this will get you going.

 

(Posted by Eric Williams on01-21-11)

Hi Eric. Worked like a champ! I just have to manually set the size and position in the ini- no dragging. This didn't seem to work until I turned off the frame and all was well. Just takes a bit of trial and error to get the position to be correct.

 

Just trying to sort out all my issues before the MIP construction is finalized. I really like the software thus far BTW. I think a purchase may be in my future! Thanks again for the assistance!

 

(Posted by Eric Williams on 08-14-11)

Another sizing issue. I cannot get the displays to fit the bezels on my 16 inch Widescreen LCD screens. Sorry for the camera shake and YouTube wrecked the audio- will try to re-upload but I hope you get the idea. Any help appreciated.

 

https://youtu.be/VG4SjM1Ugqk

 

(Posted by Jason Hite on 08-14-11)

The solution to this issue will be the same for the RMUs, a zoom function for use when the bezel is not displayed. Thanks for posting the video, it documents the issue perfectly!

 

(Posted by Eric Williams on 08-14-11)

Okay that is a relief. I have been beating my head against the wall on this one since I purchased the software.  I eagerly await the update! Thanks very much.

 

Did some more digging, and wasted another hour but I do have some answers. The software, indeed, needs to be adjusted to support the wider monitors.

 

But for people running newer video cards than me, they may be able to select a "Do-Not Scale" function in the video drivers and run the 1024X768 than everyone is using (and the software gets along with) This should just leave a black area where the monitor is unused on either side.

 

Alas, I cannot do this. My old Nvidia cards in these PCs do not have this option in the drivers as the control panel hasn't been updated in forever.

 

Just thought I'd share in case someone else runs into this and needs an interim fix. I will eagerly await an update to support my larger displays. Thanks Gents.

 

(Posted by Eric Tomlin on 08-18-11)

As I suspected, a hardware related issue. I will make sure that Jason is aware to evaluate this new info.

 

(Posted by Eric Williams on 08-18-11)

I suppose that depends on your point of view- it is really a Jet45 software issue, but with the newer monitor hardware. Nothing changed, still need a mod to the software to accommodate the higher resolution hardware.

 

I was just posting so others may benefit if they are trying to run the software. The fix is the same for Jason.

 

UPDATE:

Any chance this has moved forward? I would really like my displays to look like the real ones.

 

(Posted by Jason Hite on 02-27-12)

First of all I can understand your frustration. Updates have been slow to come but I continue working on the software as I am able.

 

No one else has expressed this problem with their particular hardware setups. The only other option that you have not tried is a different monitor. It is only logical that if you have tried different cards and PCs, and no other user has reported this problem that the issue is most likely your monitor! I cannot support every single monitor, PC, video card and combination thereof on the market today.

 

I have implemented resizing of the RMU displays (currently in beta) with keystrokes as you had requested. This effort took nearly 100 hours to accomplish and it is a solution to the problem. In order to complete this "fix" on the display units, we are talking another few hundred hours since it involves a change to over 50,000 lines of code by hand. In the meantime, everyone else is waiting for features and bug fixes for their software as well.

 

I will close with this: Your concerns have been noted and are on a list of TODOs. I cannot, however, tell you when they will be implemented. That will depend on several factors which don't need to be discussed here on the forum. This is a perfect example of why we offer a very generous free trial of our software, so you can verify it works with your system and meets your expectations.

 

Changing your monitor was not the answer you wanted to hear, nor is it an ideal one. However, given the current backlog of work and your need for a more realistic solution, this is all I can offer at the moment.

 

(Posted by Will Sasse on 02-28-12)

Eric, the bad news is its most probably is your monitors. As a test, try plugging in different brand monitors and see if the problem persists. To be honest, sourcing new monitors is not much of an expense compared to the rest of the project, even if it requires some backing frame work.

 

If it is your monitors, I thinks its unreasonable to insist that Jason change the programming to suit. If it was easy, I believe Jason would do it. The response everyone here has to issues and questions from the Jet45 team is second to none that I know of. I have nothing but praise for Jason and the team at Jet45. What they have done, and are still doing, for a small bunch of hobbyists is nothing short of wonderful.

 

Good luck, I know the crew here at the Hangar will do all they reasonably can to help you get your sim working. As our once Prime-Minister said "Life was not meant to be easy!", and in my limited experience that goes doubly so for this sim building!

 

(Posted by Eric Williams on 02-28-12)

Jason, thank you for the reply. I would suggest if you are going to change your path and no longer offer a fix as indicated, you should tell the customer. This issue has been going on since early in my build. I was told that a solution was forthcoming so I kept moving forward. Going back now to change monitors is NOT an option.

 

(Posted by Shane Barnes on 02-29-12)

Eric, I went back and reviewed a couple of your videos showing JET45 running. One thing I noticed in your video is that you do not have a black mask inside the DU frames. This black mask extends at least .500 in on each side of the DU's and .375 or more on the top of the DU's. It looks like you are trying to fill the complete opening of the DU with JET45 without having a mask in place. Take a look at some of the real Lear 45 DU's when they are powered and you will see a black area framing the display. We have created the mask to simulate what you see in the real Lear 45.

 

I think if you had this mask in place that would help you some with your issue as it takes away space around the DU that needs to be filled by JET45. If you take that in consideration this takes away at least one inch from side to side and 3/4 to one inch from top to bottom.

 

Here is a photo of the back of Ron's DU'S. Note the black mask that is installed in his DU's: