Quote from Jason on August 4, 2021, 8:26 pm

Hi Dave,

I don't understand what you mean by open the panels on one PC and move them to another. I assume you mean that you open them on the same PC and move them to a different monitor on the same PC right?

Here is what you need to do:

• Set both monitors to the same resolution works fine, it doesn't matter what resolution as long as they both match.
• Open the PFD and move it to your monitor where you want it, then resize it by clicking on the edge of the display and dragging it with the mouse.
  • You must set "show_frame=yes" in the ini file for this to work or there will be no frame for you to click on!
  • Note that you should first change the height of the window. When you do this the contents may get clipped by the left and right edges, simply click and change the width to fit.
• Once you get the PFD into the right spot and size, close it. When it closes, it writes the window position and size to the ini file. When you re-open the PFD, it should pop back up in the right spot from now on. Doesn't hurt to save off the position in the ini file somewhere else for safe keeping in case you have to recreate the file.

Same process for all Jet45 displays.  Now this is kind of a pain when the monitor is tucked behind a panel and you can't necessarily see the window frames. The way I do this is by using remote desktop or VNC so that I can view the other PCs from my main server/FS PC. That way, I can clearly see all the monitor contents on a remote monitor and resize them perfectly.

Lots of info here, let us know if this works for you.

Jason

Quote from DrDave on August 4, 2021, 8:28 pm

Thanks, Jason. Didn't expect such a quick answer. Yes - your first paragraph is correct. I changed the Desktop (1280 x 1024) to 1280 x 720 t0 match the 2nd monitor but still couldn't resize to on the 2nd. Thanks for your input. I will certainly use it.

Quote from DrDave on August 5, 2021, 2:00 pm

Sorry Jason,

Your instructions didn't quite work. Frustrating. I changed both monitors to 1280 x 720. Changed the position to the primary monitor. Framless = 0. When I move the window to the secondary monitor, the image narrows. Same for both MFD and PFD.

If I try to resize, the window size changes but the image doesn't change.

Frankly it's a lot of money for this frustration. Next I'm going to try with no secondary. But I want to drive 3 monitors with this PC. If I can't do that, I'm messed.

Has any one else had these issues? Running Windows 10.

 

 

Quote from Jason on August 5, 2021, 2:38 pm

This is obviously an issue with your video card and monitor combination. Please consider how many combinations of hardware are possible in the world and the false assumption that it will work flawlessly with all of them.  It seems to me there is likely a setting in your video card driver that is causing this (some scaling setting).

Can you please post screenshots of your driver settings pages here and we will see what we can find?  I don't recall ever seeing this issue posted in the 10+ years the software has been available.

Does this happen with other applications on that monitor?

What happens when you change the vertical size of the window? As I said above, changing the width does not change the size of the graphics.

Lastly, you need to install the Jet45.ttf font found in the installation folder. That's why the text does not align well.

Quote from DrDave on August 5, 2021, 3:11 pm

I forget where I have installed the font - sorry.

Which device settings do you mean? Device manager? Not sure if there are other drivers. I will send what I can get.

It does work now. Still need to attach the other monitors. Need cables.

Quote from Jason on August 5, 2021, 3:38 pm

Referring to your video card settings.  This would be for NVIDIA or MSI etc.  You can usually get there by right clicking on your desktop and selecting graphics properties. What kind of video card do you have?

Quote from DrDave on August 9, 2021, 11:04 am

Sorry it took so long. I have an NVIDIA 710 graphics card. I had one monitor attached to a USB - VGA output and one to the NVIDIA VGA port. Changed all that. Now Works.

I now have 3 monitors attached to the NVIDIA card with adapters. DVI to VGA, HDMI to VGA and native VGA. All work fine. The VGA drives the desktop, the DVI drives the PFD/MFD monitor and the HDMI drives the 9 inch monitor for the backup instruments. Seems to work fine except:

I share the desktop monitor among 2 PCS. The server and client. The above is on the client. When I switch to the server desktop, obviously the client desktop monitor is off, the PDF/MFDs don't change aspect but move on the screen even after closing and opening. The backup instruments change size and position on the 9 inch monitor.

Can anyone tell me how to lock the monitors to not change? Also, has anyone used the 9 inch monitors yet. It is hard to keep the X-Y ratio the same moving to the 9 inch.

I am a novice when it comes to graphic cards. Haven't a clue of the settings.

Quote from Ron Rollo on August 10, 2021, 6:40 am

What you have described above is an issue I knew to avoid from the beginning because when it comes to graphics card and the rest of it, I would also be considered a novice.  So what I did and what I recommend to you is setting up a second monitor for your second computer.  It is very difficult for any of us to try and trouble shoot your specific setup being that without a doubt, what you have is surely different than what any of us have.

Along the same lines, I have three keyboards and three mice, a set for each computer.  I know there are programs that address things like this, but my thinking was I wanted a solid foundation to run the sim to avoid some of these issues you are seeing.  (It only gets tougher from here.)

Here you can see I have three desktop monitors for each of my three computers and if you look close, you can see two of the three small keyboards.

Once you find the sweet spot for all the monitors and all the Jet45 windows etc,  save and done and this is no longer an issue.

I would expect nothing but trouble attempting to share one desktop monitor with two computers and several different resolutions.  It goes without saying that the stuff we are trying to accomplish is well outside the scope of what MS and the likes had in mind as they develop video cards, drivers etc.  It is possible and you might get lucky, but the sure thing is just get a second desktop monitor.

Quote from DrDave on August 10, 2021, 10:22 am

Thanks Ron, the only reason I have one monitor (on a VGA and usb switch, 4 in 1 out) is I moved a monitor, keyboard and mouse close to the monitors in the MIP. I couldn't line up the instruments where the PCS are.

Like you, I would prefer a monitor per PC (I have 3 PCS). I'll just have to do 1 PC at a time without a switch.

My keyboard and mouse are wireless and work fine.

Thanks